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		<title>By: Litui.Net » Rogers and its e911 Commitment to the CRTC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Litui.Net » Rogers and its e911 Commitment to the CRTC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Latest in the Rogers debacle &#8211; All calls redirected       Feb 08 2010 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rogers and their idiocy with Android &#171; Keyboard Cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.litui.net/archives/838/comment-page-1#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogers and their idiocy with Android &#171; Keyboard Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: litui</title>
		<link>http://www.litui.net/archives/838/comment-page-1#comment-2019</link>
		<dc:creator>litui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, please also have a look at my previous write-up for your chronology: http://www.litui.net/archives/796 . =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, please also have a look at my previous write-up for your chronology: <a href="http://www.litui.net/archives/796" rel="nofollow">http://www.litui.net/archives/796</a> . =)</p>
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		<title>By: andrew james</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the 1.6, cyanogen, is safe, I have no reason to revert the system

has anyone talked with rogers of that specific mod?  or any 1.6?

if their solution was to patch a 1.5 rather than convert that is lazy, unsupportive.  chance is that HTC created the system for them initially, and rogers is inpotent to order their technicians, developers to provide .   they are minimally active, I think that even to patch the system 1.5 roger relied to HTC --  though the safe code has been in the new OPEN SOURCE FREE system 1.6 (android that continues to exist freely as developed). 

The statement from rogers is this problem happened when Canada recently switched on their e911 ( http://www.iwantmyonepointsix.com/?p=155 ).

Rogers imediately turned to HTC to have them solve their system problems, rather than rogers actively converting their system to the newest with their developer resources.  News from service providers in the USA is that they coverted to the safe code in system 1.6.   Even better, rogers could collaborate to develop the systems android for their products.   

If I was HTC, I would have been bothered, annoyed at the request from rogers to make a patch for what is really an old, inefficient system (1.5).   Perhaps that is why I read complaints that the system 1.5 that HTC &#039;patched by pluggin in some safe code&#039;  for rogers is the worst for users, HTC wants to deject the parasitic rogers ( post #10 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5499446 ).  &#039;Patched&#039; systems typically have minimal changes, chance is in this system there are no improvements, only a few lines of code for e911.

I am only trying to form a story from what i read at various new sites.  I will talk with rogers later to accuse them of all their unproductivity, to suggest that they not worsen anything for their users.  I want to contiue to use cyanogen mod, rogers should pay the developers at that project even a relatively small money (for rogers) to hire cyanogen developers to put the system in their HTCs (that would include developments), then they may earn a reputation for quality system development and service.   

As I implied with the subserviance to HTC, rogers has not actively developed a product to make it theirs, the clients must not have inconvience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the 1.6, cyanogen, is safe, I have no reason to revert the system</p>
<p>has anyone talked with rogers of that specific mod?  or any 1.6?</p>
<p>if their solution was to patch a 1.5 rather than convert that is lazy, unsupportive.  chance is that HTC created the system for them initially, and rogers is inpotent to order their technicians, developers to provide .   they are minimally active, I think that even to patch the system 1.5 roger relied to HTC &#8212;  though the safe code has been in the new OPEN SOURCE FREE system 1.6 (android that continues to exist freely as developed). </p>
<p>The statement from rogers is this problem happened when Canada recently switched on their e911 ( <a href="http://www.iwantmyonepointsix.com/?p=155" rel="nofollow">http://www.iwantmyonepointsix.com/?p=155</a> ).</p>
<p>Rogers imediately turned to HTC to have them solve their system problems, rather than rogers actively converting their system to the newest with their developer resources.  News from service providers in the USA is that they coverted to the safe code in system 1.6.   Even better, rogers could collaborate to develop the systems android for their products.   </p>
<p>If I was HTC, I would have been bothered, annoyed at the request from rogers to make a patch for what is really an old, inefficient system (1.5).   Perhaps that is why I read complaints that the system 1.5 that HTC &#8216;patched by pluggin in some safe code&#8217;  for rogers is the worst for users, HTC wants to deject the parasitic rogers ( post #10 <a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5499446" rel="nofollow">http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5499446</a> ).  &#8216;Patched&#8217; systems typically have minimal changes, chance is in this system there are no improvements, only a few lines of code for e911.</p>
<p>I am only trying to form a story from what i read at various new sites.  I will talk with rogers later to accuse them of all their unproductivity, to suggest that they not worsen anything for their users.  I want to contiue to use cyanogen mod, rogers should pay the developers at that project even a relatively small money (for rogers) to hire cyanogen developers to put the system in their HTCs (that would include developments), then they may earn a reputation for quality system development and service.   </p>
<p>As I implied with the subserviance to HTC, rogers has not actively developed a product to make it theirs, the clients must not have inconvience.</p>
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		<title>By: litui</title>
		<link>http://www.litui.net/archives/838/comment-page-1#comment-2014</link>
		<dc:creator>litui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know.  No redirection here yet, but I strongly suspect it&#039;s going to hit at least one friend of mine on the original 1.5 firmware soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know.  No redirection here yet, but I strongly suspect it&#8217;s going to hit at least one friend of mine on the original 1.5 firmware soon.</p>
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		<title>By: I Want My One Point Six - Demanding Android 1.6 for our Rogers HTC Magic &#38; Dream, and LG Eve Phones</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Want My One Point Six - Demanding Android 1.6 for our Rogers HTC Magic &#38; Dream, and LG Eve Phones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ben.selinger</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahoi Litui,  just to be clear, I&#039;ve updated my original post to make it clear that my intent was not to outright accusing Rogers of diverting 911 calls.  I&#039;ve checked my phone logs, and checked them twice to be sure, and my logs confirm that I dialed 911, and I&#039;m quite sure Rogers picked up, and doubly sure that the police didn&#039;t show up at my door.
I still haven&#039;t heard confirmation from anyone, so this may have been an isolated incident (although it&#039;d be awfully suspicious timing for an isolated incident), or a bug on my phone :p (maybe I should&#039;ve upgraded from 1.6 to 1.5).
Now, I&#039;ve heard that Rogers customers are now reporting that Rogers is immediately beginning the conversation by asking if the customer had intended to reach 911.  This apparently started a few hours after I believe my 911 call was diverted, and I gave them hell for it.  I&#039;ve never heard this greeting, so I&#039;m going on second and third hand information.  I&#039;d like to hear confirmation on this new greeting as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahoi Litui,  just to be clear, I&#8217;ve updated my original post to make it clear that my intent was not to outright accusing Rogers of diverting 911 calls.  I&#8217;ve checked my phone logs, and checked them twice to be sure, and my logs confirm that I dialed 911, and I&#8217;m quite sure Rogers picked up, and doubly sure that the police didn&#8217;t show up at my door.<br />
I still haven&#8217;t heard confirmation from anyone, so this may have been an isolated incident (although it&#8217;d be awfully suspicious timing for an isolated incident), or a bug on my phone :p (maybe I should&#8217;ve upgraded from 1.6 to 1.5).<br />
Now, I&#8217;ve heard that Rogers customers are now reporting that Rogers is immediately beginning the conversation by asking if the customer had intended to reach 911.  This apparently started a few hours after I believe my 911 call was diverted, and I gave them hell for it.  I&#8217;ve never heard this greeting, so I&#8217;m going on second and third hand information.  I&#8217;d like to hear confirmation on this new greeting as well.</p>
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